I replied to this directly to the newsgroup yesterday when email delivery
was interrupted.  I know some don't read the newsgroup, so I just want to
reply again with the pertinent data in case anyone is interested.  I hope I
am not breaching ettiquette by doing this - but if so, I apologize in
advance.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward Jaffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives'
article)
>
> In any case, raw MIPS improvements are easily researched. For example,
> the charts at http://www.tech-news.com/publib/ show the largest zSeries
> processor in 2000, made available in 1Q00, was a 2064-116, capable of
> delivering 2694 MIPS; the largest System z processor today, made
> available in 4Q05, was a 2094-754, capable of delivering 17,802 MIPS.
> That's a 6.6:1 improvement in less than five years. (Not bad!)

That isn't per-CPU MIPS, though (which is what was originally being
discussed).   IOW, there was a discussion about how PSI claimed 350MIPS for
an 8-core Itanium vs. 585 MIPS for a single CPU z9, with the comment that it
took 8 cores to get half of what a single z9 could do.

In any case, I see that the 2064-1C1 (single processor) achieved about 250
MIPS, while a 2094-701 achieved about 608 (single OS image) MIPS.   So in
reality, the *processor* improvement was about 2.5x - still OK, but not
quite as impressive.

Which brings me back to the point about 'keeping pace' with processor
improvements of other architectures.  x86 had about an 8-fold performance
increase during the same period (I'm not talking clock rates).  For whatever
that is worth.   And, I am
aware that the system performance is more important than processor
peformance for end users-  however, I'm just trying to keep the focus on the
question of why people think mainframe processors are slow compared to
others.

Regards,
   Dean


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