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I am looking for a view as to how people work out if they are getting a 
good deal on purchases of new mainframe capacity (whole CEC's or extra 
capacity). Sometimes it feels to me a bit like buying a car - it depends 
on how good a bargainer you are how good a deal you get - and even then 
you can guarantee you'll find someone else who has got a better deal.

We were looking to use analyst information as to what we could expect to 
pay, but have found that not to be an accurate method in that the guide 
prices from the analysts seem way below what we are actually getting. So I 
am looking for guidance on what others do. Id specifically like anything 
you can answer on the following:

1) Do you use analysts prices - if so which analysts do you use (Gartner, 
Forrester, A-nother)

2) How close do you get to the analysts recommended price

3) Have you ever seen a published list price for IBM CEC's and extra 
capacity (ie extra CP's, Memory, channels)

4) What is your approach to negotiating the best deal and how do you know 
you've got a good one

I'll happily take off-line emails or phone calls if people are not 
comfortable with sharing this information in open forum


Peter Gammage 
IT Architect

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