In this case, there was no game-playing.  We had an agency using our
system that wanted to create only a small number of IDs and have all
their staff share those IDs.  When we informed them that it was contrary
to our policy, they wanted the "chapter and verse".  Due to personnel
turn-over, we were having trouble finding it, so the question was sent
to the auditor.  Her response was relayed to the requestor, and that was
the end of that idea.

I have missed her on the last two audits.

David Mueller | Systems Programmer | DMS/CITS
Phone: 850-414-9134 (Rm 107 SRC) | Fax: 850-921-8343
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kirk Talman
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Good Auditors (was: Vary devices online and offline)

There was a book titled "Games People Play."  It can be very effective
to 
ask an auditor (in a less than direct way) to play the game found in the

book called "Let's you and him/her fight" to achieve your goals that 
involve uncooperative or not knowledgeable persons, particularly those
not 
in your chain of command.  One person I work with is very effective at 
this.  Not everyone appreciates her talent.

IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> wrote on 08/28/2007

12:36:15 PM:

> We had a good auditor working for the State of Florida 
> ...  She also made it easy to shut someone up who wanted
> to ignore some policies. 

> David Mueller | Systems Programmer | DMS/CITS

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