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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:40 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: zOS Unix DOS2UNIX
> 
> 
> Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:34:09 -0400, Jon Brock wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Using normal 3270 access?  I get "FSUM9140 Terminal "dumb" has
> >>insufficient capabilities for Curses."
> >>
> > 
> > That's the usual outcome if you try "vi" under 3270 OMVS.
> > Until you get TELNET (or RLOGIN or SSH) to OMVS, you'll
> > just need to tolerate OEDIT, if you can and you're in a
> > hurry.
> > 
> > -- gil
> 
> Well, of course, I would have put it the other way around.
> You have the joy of oedit instead of the curse of vi. Just
> get into omvs and oedit the file you want.
> 
> Ah, wait. You must be a UNIX person doing work on the
> mainframe instead of a mainframe person learning to do
> work on z/OS UNIX. Otherwise you'd gravitate to oedit
> and never look at vi again. It's all in what you were
> raised with, I'm afraid.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> -Steve Comstock
> The Trainer's Friend, Inc.

I use both "vi" (well actually vim on Linux) and OEDIT. Of course, I
mean in the appropriate environment (OEDIT in TSO OMVS) and vi on a
telnet login. Both have strengths and weaknesses. There are things that
I can do so easily in OEDIT but have never figured out how to do in "vi"
(like C 'A' 'B' ALL 5 to change all "A"s in column 5 to "B"s. Or use
start and end labels). But I absolutely adore the use of regular
expressions in "vi".

Believe it or not, I NFS mount a subdirectory on my Linux desktop system
on z/OS. I then use both "vim" on Linux and OEDIT on z/OS to edit files
that I keep stored on my Linux system. Granted, this means exiting one
editor and enter the other, back and forth, to do some things. But it is
efficient for me. The NFS mount attributes successfully manage the
EBCDIC/ASCII translation for me. So, does this mean that the people from
the "funny farm" will be calling?<grin>.

--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administrative Services Group
Information Technology

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