Lindy Mayfield wrote:

[snip]

I belong now to a couple of Yahoo Groups which is made up of mostly
people new to z/OS, and I help out and answer questions when I can.  If
I'm not mistaken, by the names, most of the people are from India.

It is not uncommon to see posts like this:

<quote>
Hi,
I have been developing applications for zOS using the USS for
some time. Now, I want to learn more about the zOS. Can somebody give
me tips where to start learning zOS, TSO, ISPF, SDSF, etc?
Soon we will be getting a dedicated development environment from IBM,
where I will have to operate everything myself.
Thanks for the replies.
</quote>

I've started a folder I call "pathetic_outsourcing_questions",
all come from the MVSQuest Yahoo group, and they are all from
India, people seeking free information with no idea how to go
about it. Here's some samples:

---
Hello Guru's,


Could any 1 tell me in DB2 V7 S/390 :


Q.) How to Extract data from SYSIBM.SYSLGRNX

Q) What is exact use of DSN.BSDS files

Q) How to Read Active Log of DB2.

Thanks
Teja
---

Hi folks,
         This is Nandha, i need mainframe server to practice from
home.Becuase i am doing mainframe course and i need to practice a lot.
Pl anyone help me.

Regards,
Nnadhakumar
---

Hi Grp,

I am learning REXX i want a material which is right from scrath...till
depth..including panels...

Please dont send me an links..because i cant access net in my Project.

Awaiting for the reply.

Thanks in advance.....

Archana Reddy Chundi
Tata Consultancy Services Limited
Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: http://www.tcs.com
---

Hi Guys,

  Is  Anyone has  Learning Material on Coolgen Please send it

  It will be of great help

  Thanks And Regards

  Rajesh
---

Hi,

  Can anyone please send me some materials on PLI.

  Thanks & regards,
  sairathi.
---

Hi all
I am preparing for DB2 family fundamental Exam(700) . Please send me previous question paper and related material . So that i can easily clear the exam .
Please send , i will be thankful to you .


Regards
Suprakash Mohapatra
---

Hi,

Could any please elobertae about LOW VALUES and HIGH VALUES.

EG:

MOVE LOW-VALUES TO INREC
MOVE HIGH-VALUES TO OUTREC

and what is the difference b/w the Record Formats  V and VB.

Thanks
---

etc.


(No idea how to answer that.  Steve you want to open a branch office in
India?)

Thought about it. A few years ago I visited Hursley, England, and
spoke with the IBM'er in charge of training for Asia. He told me
that ed centers there generally charge $25 per student day and
make a profit. I can't afford to work that cheap, I'm afraid.




I absolutely do not want to bring up the pros & cons of outsourcing.
The fact is, though, places like India are getting a lot of mainframe
work.  And indeed there are a lot of areas in the world where mainframes
still have a chance to take hold.  I'm thinking China may be a big
up-and-coming market (but I've no facts to back that up).

A colleague of mine is constantly on the road to China; but
he is teaching .NET type things to GE employees there; no
mainframe. Still, it is going to be a center that includes
mainframe work.

[snip]


Do others see this as a challenge?  That mainframes are beginning to
spread faster than people can properly learn them?  And how do you learn
what you need to know - things that normally take experience and time -
so quickly? Perhaps Steve if he reads this has some answers.

Wish it were so. I'm still running into the mindset of most
medium to large companies getting off the mainframe (whether
they actually accomplish that varies). The largest companies
are committed to mainframes, so far. But as far as training,
most organizations have dropped that priority way down the
list; they expect employees to train themselves or find
training on their own. Note: there are some exceptions,
where training is still valued; just found one and I'm not
giving out the name; we'll see.



I for one am very happy to see so many new (and young) people interested
in working with IBM mainframes.  Having survived the Microsoft Wars I'm
happy our side didn't lose.

Well, we weren't wiped out. The war is not over.

Remember things like in 1991 when Stewart
Alsop wrote, "I predict that the last mainframe will be unplugged on 15
March 1996."  (If centralization by virtualization continues to be a
better way to go, then people will realize that there are better OS's
than MS for this and make the natural switch to Unix and mainframe
servers.  I predict that the last MS server will be unplugged by 2025.)
(-:

On a good note, you can't stop people from learning z/OS no matter how
hard you try (IBM).  z/OS 1.6 ADCD (I've read) is available to download
on some of the bittorrent networks.  (Well, for all I know IBM actually
put them out there, and if so, smart move.)

I agree with Shane on this: IBM did not do this in any
authorized way and someone is at big legal risk for that.



Kind regards,
Lindy



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