> Your reply to my last two paragraphs significantly >skews my position.
My comments weren't specifically directed to your statements, but rather to the general sense that seems to permeate this thread. >That is the kind of education that is the responsibility of the companies; >it's almost >impossible for an individual to obtain. I have to disagree. Many senior systems prorammers had no mentors because there was literally no one senior enough to have had the experiences. In addition, the opportunity to learn from "hands on" was significantly more restricted than it is today. >Any mainframe company without sufficient expertise is bad for all of us. >Mainframes >already get bad press. While I can appreciate the sentiment, I think you're overstating the case by a fair amount. "Good" press or "bad" press isn't likely to occur based on any of the arguments you're advancing. If people can't see the "good" in forty-plus years of achievement, then they're not likely to see it in a well-run data center or anything else for that matter. In addition, you're assuming that there is enough factual reporting and discrimination on the part of the reader to distinguish a mainframe outage from any other platform. Whether or not the mainframe does well, will depend far more on political decisions than technical ones, but that's a different agenda and a different issue. Once again, those organizations that will require mainframes will keep them, while those that don't will have multiple choices. Honestly, the discussion about mainframes isn't being very precise, since the majority of the people on this forum are concerned about z/OS and not mainframes. In many cases, a mainframe running another operating system would be considered as big a loss as anything. Perhaps instead of worrying so much about answering questions, we should be asking them to expand our own horizons. Adam ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

