PWD members still can download tons of IBM software. I'm not claiming to have been misquoted, but my comment about Hercules or "whatever" was meant for PWD members (or anyone deemed by IBM to be worthy in some way to get the ADCD for z/OS or z/VM), and not meant to say that z/OS/z/VM should be released to the wild. Though I would like that, too, I don't see it as realistic. IBM still lets PWD members license ADCD's so the only thing stopping that is that <insert your's here> (IMHO iPhone/AT&T style) relationship between them and FSI.
People in this software game have influence on what other people buy and use. Hypothetically speaking, of course, I could say HP or AIX, and I could say I recommend WebLogic or WebSphere. Now, hypothetically speaking, if as a PWD member I can download WebSphere and learn it, then hypothetically if someone asked me I could say that WebSphere is a good choice. (WebLogic is good, too.) People can think otherwise, but in my humble opinion, unless it is running on mainframe hardware it isn't a mainframe in any sense of the word. It could be emulating one for development or training or other purposes, though. In my opinion this very clear line has been blurred a bit (by PSI et al). Let me put it another way (my opinion of course): What sorts of things might people come up with if they had a $1000 PC running z/OS to develop on in their spare time? And I mean things that they could never do on a real mainframe at their work. There're a million things I'd love to try and learn about when I can't sleep. I've been a fan of IBM mainframes since 1983 and I've never, ever, in my life ever written to an APF controlled library. Some of us just aren't so lucky. )-: Or put another way. I wonder how many times Dave has crashed the system or even had to use his SA disk? (-: Lindy P.S. I know this topic gets discussed ad nauseum. But like the guy wrote on the Hercules page, let's just keep asking IBM nicely and maybe they'll come around, maybe not. > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John S. Giltner, Jr. > Sent: 22. syyskuuta 2007 20:29 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: zH/OS (z/OS on Hercules for personal use only) > > Andreas F. Geissbuehler wrote: > > 5) About 3 years ago I downloaded a Linux distro, installed Apache, > MySQL, > > Perl packages. By now I have written a few websites, CGI applications. > IBM > > has something called WebSphere. I'll never get a WebSphere contract > because > > I have no *WebSphere exprience*. > > > > There is a BIG difference between a LAMP enviroment and Websphere. LAMP > is not J2EE. > > Unless they have stopped you can download, or order a free CD, that has > has the whole Websphere developer product for a 90-day free trial. > > You can also use other J2EE products (JBOSS) for free to get J2EE > experience. Although JBOSS is not the same as Websphere there are a lot > of things that can transfer between enviroments. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
