> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Stitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:10 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Writing 23FDs
> 
> Oh....the memories.....my head hurts. :-)
> 
> The full screen interface was DOS/VSEs attempt at ISPF.  But it was
> Neanderthal compared to modern man.  WYSIWYG, no way to build your own
> stuff, that I know of.
> 
> The biggest pain was that ICCF editor had no "undo" command.

That I don't remember, but you could be correct.

OTOH, there certainly were ways to build your own stuff into SSX, though
AFAIK IBM only told ISV's about it.  I was charged with integrating our
product into the SSX installation and support methodology, and it really was
an interesting project to do.

Horribly slow because the 4331 was really, really slow, but it did the job.
Eventually... :)

ICCF itself of course was available on all of the VSE's that I worked on.
ISTR ICCF V1 even ran under DOS/VS, but ICBW.

It wasn't ISPF, but compared to punching cards on an 029 or 129 it was a
pretty good tool.

Then again, IMHO ISPF is TSO's attempt at XEDIT... and not a very good one
either... :)

Peter

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