On Nov 19, 2007, at 1:16 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
For what it's worth, I think this IBM-MAIN subject line choice is a
bad
one.
First, the word "disadvantages": sadly, such incidents are not
unique to
India. Unfortunately in a global comparison of crime rates the
U.S., as an
example, might not rank well.
Timothy. I had thought about the wording on this and came up with it
as neutral and not anti (any country) just outsourcing in general. I
was not trying to be PC just convey to the reader that there are
issues that we rarely see here in the states. Having said that, there
was an article in the papers (I will try and locate it) about theft
in a Data Center here in Chicago. While its not an apples to apples
comparison(crime) it does show as you indicate there are unfortunate
things that happen to any company in the US/offshore. This item (and
I can't find it now but will continue to look for) was really the
first I had ever heard about theft in a data center (anywhere). I
guess I should have forwarded it to the group as it was unusual
(IMO). It (IIRC) did not mention that it was an IBM installation so I
held back on sending it. I am sure if I had I would have heard
somebody it was OT. But to get back to your main thought I do not
believe I have ever heard of a threat being made to a data center
(like this one) here in the US. There may have been for all I know
but it certainly wasn't reported.
Second, the word "outsourcing": a huge part of IBM's presence in India
involves the myriad activities to sell and support its growing
product and
service businesses in India, including products and services produced
outside India. The word "exporting" would be more accurate.
I disagree with your exporting word. But you are correct I think that
there needs to be another term used. Perhaps "offshore"?
At least the "OT" (off-topic) part is correct: the chosen subject
line has
nothing to do with the story.
It's a simple story deserving a simple reaction. I hope we can all
agree
that this threat is reprehensible and move on.
I think I disagree and would say while its reprehensible its a factor
(IIRC there are companies that look at the pros/cons of off-shoring)
and "stuff" like this is not mentioned. I have a friend that does off-
shoring and I asked him if it is and unfortunately he is out of the
country doing his job and hasn't gotten back to me if the issue is/is
not talked about. If he does respond I will let the group know his
response.
Ed
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