> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:25 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Why isn't OMVS command integrated with ISPF?
> 
> 
> Mark Post wrote:
> >>>>On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at  9:21 AM, in message
> > 
> > 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> om>, "McKown,
> > John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > -snip-
> > 
> >>I also don't much care for the UNIX shell on z/OS compared 
> to bash on
> >>Linux. But that last may just be that I'm not used to it.
> > 
> > 
> > The shell on USS is the same as on AIX.  I never had the time 
> > to learn it properly, so the conflicting command options 
> > between it and bash always drove me nuts as well.  I got 
> > around it by compiling bash and using that.  (Or I used a 
> > version of bash from the ported tools page.  My memory is 
> > failing me there.)  That was much more comfortable.
> 
> Clearly a matter of what you "grew up" with. For 25+ years I
> worked on mainframes and UNIX was always the enemy. For the
> last 8 years I have been learning, and developing training
> courses about, z/OS UNIX. Not having any previous experience
> with UNIX has actually been, to my mind, a benefit. I'm having
> fun with it and don't miss things I've never seen.

I generally like the new stuff in ISPF (z/OS 1.8) for doing UNIX work.
But I despise TSO OMVS.

> 
> I especially appreciate the omvs facility and recent ISPF
> enhancements that others seem to despise. For long time
> mainframe developers, this is a very comfortable environment
> and you never have to say "vi". :-)

<war type="editor" subtype="religious" intensity="flame">
If IBM ever puts regular expressions in PDF edit/OEDIT, "vi" will become
just a bad dream.
</war>

> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> -Steve Comstock


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John McKown
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