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Thanks for the test.  I was hoping to get by without part of the
SMPPTFIN.  One of the elements is nearly 7GB in size, and I was wanting
to not have to create a zFS that large.  Since they document that the
zFS is supposed to be three times the size of the order, I will need a
21GB file system unless I can make the order forget about the large
FMID. 


Larry Gray
Large Systems Engineering
Lowe's Companies
336-658-7944

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 2:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SMP/E RECEIVE AND FROMNTS

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:35:45 -0500, Gray, Larry - Larry A wrote:
>
>When doing a RECEIVE FROMNTS, can you specify only to receive one 
>specific SYSMOD in the order, or do you have to receive the entire 
>order?
>
FROMNETWORK should be fully compatible with SELECT, FORFMID, and
EXCLUDE.  The only documented restrictions are:

14.2.1 "SMP/E V3R4.0 Commands" IBM Library Server

          Notes:

          1. FROMNTS is mutually exclusive with FROMNETWORK and ORDER.

          2. When FROMNTS is specified:

          + a DD or DDDEF for SMPNTS is required.
          + DDs or DDDEFs for SMPPTFIN and SMPHOLD are not required and
are ignored if
            supplied.
          + RFPREFIX is ignored, if specified.
          + RECEIVE FROMNTS processing requires either the Integrated
Cryptographic
            Services Facility (ICSF) or JAVA 2 Version 1 Release 4 in
order to compute a
            SHA-1 hash value.

(The last is slightly confusing.  Better would be: "If neither [ICSF]
nor [JAVA] is available, RECEIVE FROMNTS issues message GIM23411I and
proceeds without verifying SHA-1 hash values.")

I tried some experiments with SMP/E 34.14: I emptied my SMPPTS and
deleted my SMPTLIBs.  I then did:

    RECEIVE FROMNTS( package ) SELECT( one sysmod ) .

followed by

    RECEIVE FROMNTS( package ) .

In both cases, only the expected SYSMODs were received.  Better, the
relative files for the unselected SYSMODs were ignored and not unzipped.
All SMPPTFIN files were unzipped both times, but this is to be expected
since the GIMPAF.XML file identifies no SYSMOD ownership of SMPPTFIN
files.

I have no ORDERs available for experiment, however I'd expect similar
behavior for ORDERs.

-- gil

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