In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/29/2007
at 09:56 AM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>This is a pervasive deficiency of TSO,
Don't confuse TSO with ISPF; the required facilities are there but ISPF
doesn't exploit them.
>And I'll repeat my wish for "background initiated foreground". x3270 is
>open source; it could be recast to operate as an agent so an x3270
>invoked on the mainframe might open an X11 window on the desktop.
You don't need x3270, or any other TN3270 client, just some enhancements
to the WAS support. The code has been there for a long time to allow a
batch ISPF job to connect to WSA.
>The hard part is getting TSO to talk to sockets instead of to VTAM.
Why do you believe that sockets are relevant to your proposal? A TN3270
server communicates via SNA, so no TSO change is necessary in order to use
x3270.
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/29/2007
at 06:09 PM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Anyone who believe that's a fundamental limitation of 3270
>hardware that can't be worked around:
>o Has never used VM/CMS
>o Has been brainwashed by TSO
ROTF,LMAO! That hasn't been a limitation of TSO for decades. It's a
limitation if ISPF, and I'd be very surprised if the CMS version of ISPF
didn't have the same limitation.
>I'd be delighted to see an alternative implementation of OMVS that
>bypasses TSO (or is VTAM the culprit?) and passes 327x data streams more
>directly to the terminal.
I doubt it. If it's done by the same people with the same design it will
have the same limitations, and you'll be unhappy. If it's done by someone
that understands TSO and with an interface requirement to eliminate the
wait, then it will be done that way.
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/29/2007
at 06:22 PM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Suppose in each of those (or in concurrent processes from a single
>TTY session) I could invoke a Rexx EXEC which says
>"ADDRESS TSO ISPGUI", or "ADDRESS TSO WSA" displaying a 3270 terminal
>emulator on my desktop.
Then there would have to be a complete redesign of ISPGUI, because the WSA
support does not use a 3270 simulator. In fact, the whole point of a WSA
session is that it is not a 3270 session.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html>
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
(S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO
Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
