> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:28 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Java Problem Analysis
> 
> 
> Quote from the diagnosis book:
> 
> "It is easier for IBM Service to solve a problem when a test 
> case is available. Include a test case with your problem 
> report wherever possible."
> 
> This really rubs me the wrong way, not because it isn't true, 
> but because to me it sounds like justification why these 
> highly intermittend, non-reproducible problems are never 
> found! To someone used to z/OS and finding the bug with the 
> one and only dump ever produced (because it is a 
> serialization problem of some sort, possibly caused by the 
> fact that multiple processors can execute the same 
> instruction at exactly the same time), this sounds like an 
> excuse, proven by the way these problems are always handled, 
> due to lack of skill and knowledge..
> 
> <rant off>
> Barbara
> -- 

That is a "good one"! And I agree with you 100%. Any programmer worthly
of the name can fix a problem which is 100% reproducible from a given
set of inputs. The problems usually occur in a multiuser/multitasking
scenario. 

--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administrative Services Group
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