On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:27:45 +0100, Barbara Nitz <nitz-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Quote from the diagnosis book:
>
>"It is easier for IBM Service to solve a problem when a test case is 
available. Include a test case with your problem report wherever 
possible."
>
>This really rubs me the wrong way, not because it isn't true, but 
because to me it sounds like justification why these highly 
intermittend, non-reproducible problems are never found! To someone 
used to z/OS and finding the bug with the one and only dump ever 
produced (because it is a serialization problem of some sort, possibly 
caused by the fact that multiple processors can execute the same 
instruction at exactly the same time), this sounds like an excuse, 
proven by the way these problems are always handled, due to lack of 
skill and knowledge..
>
><rant off>
>Barbara


I can understand why you are upset, but I find IBM's statement 
reasonable.  For some reason, whittling down a problem to it's core is 
not the instinct of a lot of people.  They will have a huge J2EE 
application, doing 50 things at once, with multiple extraneous (are 
they?) errors, and they have one(?) error which is a show stopper.  
Then one has to wade through all the other errors which are present, 
trying to ignore them to get to the root of the problem.

So, I look at this at dumbing it down, and, unfortunately, highly 
justified.

And speaking of wacky software, I may be one of the few people who 
don't get these babies as emails - I use the web interface.  I'm using 
IE6, and when it displays full-width postings, often it will duplicate 
some of the words on the end of the line (Barbara's posting is an 
example).  I looked at the source HTML, and it looks fine.  When you 
select the text, the repeated words don't get hilighted.  Very odd.  I 
guess I should try with Firefox.

Aaron

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