On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:15:38 -0800 (PST), in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) StuartR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I hope you can give some ideas as if or how to solve the following
issue.

You may guess that it relates to migrating from an "old" server with no external tape and no external disk to a new z9 + external DS6000
disk -

There are no tape units installed.
There is no z/VM system in the old environment.

We wish to migrate the z/OS systems and data currently in use to the
new envrionment.
For simplicity sake imagine it is a one pack z/OS system we need to
move - once we can ipl this we are in business to do more.

How might you do this, our options thinking went like ....

1. Use new z/OS starter system - as above not possible since no
external tape to restore it from
2. Connect new server to the existing disk or old server to the new disk systems - not possible, the old system has only internal disk and
the new disk is FICON and cannot
be connected to the old processor.

So this leaves us with

3. Somehow "dump" an old system and FTP it across to the new system having loaded z/VM via the z9 HMC using DVD's to the new systems disk and thus having a z/VM and CMS environment - z/VM is available on
DVD's.

This is where the questions arise and looking for some help or ideas
as to how to make this work or if not possible.

We see the steps as

GET A RESTORE PGM
We believe we can build a SA DFDSS pgm in card image form (BUILDSA) on
the old system and FTP this across to a CMS user.
This user should be able to receive this card image as a CMS file and
"punch" it to the virtual reader.
We could then "IPL" from the reader on this z/VM virtual machine

- this then creates a SA DFDSS environment

GET THE DUMPED DFDSS "one pack system" data
the trick now, and where we are struggling it how to send across the
DSFSS dump of  the one pack environment.
Clearly on the old system we can create a sequential DFDSS dump image
but held on disk.
We then need to FTP this sequential image and use it as input to the
SA DFDSS system Ipl'ed.

SO ... ANY CLUES ON

- HOW TO SPECIFY THE FTP OPTIONS at each end to make sure both ends
correctly see this sequential stream in a format DFDSS can
subsequently use.
  (we assume it will be held as in interim CMS file)

- HOW WE specify the input to the SA DFDSS environment we have just
ipl'ed so it can process this data

We feel we need some views as to whether this is a non starter as a
process OR if posible please
details of the process and commands that should be used to achieve
this

Hopefully someone has done this who could assist or knows if this is
just not possible.

TIA.

I quoted the whole of your message because it hasn't been seen by the majority of IBM-Main readers. You should join the Listserv so you can post to it, even if you continue to read it via Usenet. See the instructions at the end of this (or almost any other) post.

As to solutions, have you considered copying the disk volume (or the DF/DSS dump of it) to DVD and snearkernetting it to the new machine?

Also, you mention that the old server "has only internal disk". If you can accept the downtime, you can probably open the old server and either temporarily install a new disk to copy to, or take the old disk out and temporarily install it in the new server.

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