On Jan 3, 2008 9:08 PM, Clark F Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Pete Dashwood who is the author of most of this posting, has coded for
> the mainframe and CICS.  Unfortunately, based on the actual actions of
> the COBOL standards committee, the lack of 64 bit support or support
> for even parts of the 2002 COBOL standard that were in specific SHARE
> requirements, and other things that I and others have kvetched about
> regarding mainframes and COBOL over the years, I tend to agree with
> Pete though not necessarily for his reasons.
>
> Clark Morris
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:17:49 +1300, in comp.lang.cobol "Pete Dashwood"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"tlmfru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>  Or will COBOL become the new mainframe?  I seem to recall that
> mainframes
> >> were pronounced dead a couple of decades ago.
> >>
> >> PL
> >
> >Mainframes ARE dead in terms of doing anything interesting with them :-)
> >
> >The best chance of survival they have is by attachment to the Network and
> >welcoming the Web. To the extent that they do this and become powerful
> >servers in a Network environment, they will have a future. The days when
> >they sat at the centre of things and controlled everything are long gone.
> To
> >that extent, the role they served decades ago is gone, so they ARE dead
> as
> >far as that goes.
> >
> >Don't hold your breath for a resurgence of COBOL, in the role which it
> >served decades ago, either.
> >
> >Fortress COBOL is in ruins. It has been sacked and looted. Whatever was
> of
> >value has been incorporated into the Brave New World and the barbarians
> on
> >their wiry little ponies have swept on...
> >
> >Pete.
> >--
> >"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."
> >
>
> Mainframes have been used to serve web-based applications for years now.

"Fortress Cobol" (wherein all applications are master file based)  is a
myth, and has been for a long time.

Having said that, I agree that the lack of 64 bit support is beginning to
become a hindrance.

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