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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Payne
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:43 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: New Opcodes
> 
> 
> New opcodes aren't something I worry too much about - I 
> managed to solve quite a few business
> problems with System/360.
> 
> Now old opcodes - I hope they all stick around.
> 
> The terminology used in the PDF file is interesting: "50+ 
> instructions added to improve
> compiled code efficiency".  It almost sounds like these will 
> be unpublished instructions foro
> use exclusively by IBM's compilers.

I hope not. I really __despise__ undocumented instructions. I don't know
why, but I do. I guess because I find computer architecture interesting.
But I don't see how a compiler can use an undocumented instruction. How
would I debug the program if the instruction gets an exception of some
sort? Or do source level, interactive, debugging at the assembler level?


And, if they are reserved for IBM only compilers, that is anti
competative. And what about GCC on Linux? I guess it would not be able
to use the instructions.

Undocumented, problem state, instructions are __EVIL__ as far as I am
concerned. Yes, you've finally found something that I am a bit
passionate about <grin>.

> 
> Down at metal level it's quite a different architecture.  I 
> wouldn't be surprised to see some
> object code optimized a little with special instructions.
> 
> -- 
>   Phil Payne

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