On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:53:38 -0600, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>... >I didn't mean to exclude netview, the lister just posted two options. >... . As everyone knows I >am not a fan of CA but the ops/MVS product is an OK product. ... >... Personally just for the >syslog part of the product it is far superior, IMO, than Netview. >Having said that Netview was NEVER designed to be a console >management product, IMO. So I am not comparing apple to apples nor is >it apples to oranges. The product that most fits your needs go with. >... As the resident NetView bigot I'd like to comment and expand on that a bit. Comparing NetView and CA's OPS MVS *is* a bit of an unfair comparison because OPSMVS is an automation package; NetView is a platform that an automation package can be built upon. The more accurate comparison would be between OPSMVS and SA/390 (or SA for z/OS now). >I do not know how CA/OPS MVS interfaces with MVS. I suspect (but >cannot say for sure) that it is a "honored" interface as I have not >heard anyone say anything bad about the product (ie no system crashes >or outages caused by CA/OPS MVS). ... We have OPSMVS for automated operations and (on our DASD mirroring LPARs) SA z/OS for running GDPS (GDPS on top of SA z/OS on top of NetView). I don't deal directly with either automation package, but from what I've seen and heard, the suggestion of moving all automation to SA z/OS is met with derision or shudders. SA is apparently far to complex and/or counter- intuitive to be considered. However, I think the automation tools provided by NetView are very good for ad hoc automation tasks. Since VTAM messages get there first, and are not even seen by OPS MVS, I do most network automation there. > ... I never figured out how to make sense out of NPDA ... (Sorry about taking that quote out of order.) That isn't exactly the fault of the product (and doesn't relate to automation anyway). I was able to figure it out well enough that I've been generating my own alerts for years. As we've moved away from SNA networks there are many fewer devices and programs issuing their own alerts, but NPDA on a "focal point" NetView is a great central place to collect program-generated alerts notifying you of situations needing attention. Pat O'Keefe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
