I know. However, we started installing the IBM Tivoli products in October 2006 and the versions IBM sent us were 3.1. We spent all last year just getting everything up on all the distributed systems. We have a lot of problems and opened many PMRs with IBM. IBM was on site several times during the year. Now our two z/OS system programmers are working on upgrading from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.9 so anything to do with Tivoli is on the back burner. Maybe one of these days we'll get there.
Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Andrew McIntyre > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 7:33 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM Tivoli Monitoring (ITM for short) (was: Is IBM/Tivoli > turning into CA?) > > The OMEGAMON XE 41 level products that GA'ed in Oct 06 (and one in Jan > 07) allow complete summarization and pruning with the TDW. > > Kelman, Tom wrote: > > Hmm, I just saw this thread. We had the old Candle Omegamon mainframe > > products here for several years before IBM bought them out. So our > > management got the brilliant idea that we'd expand on that and install > > the full Tivoli Monitoring suite. We currently have agents to monitor > > z/OS, DB2, CICS, and MQ Series on z/OS plus our AIX/OS systems along > > with DB2 UDB, ORACLE, MQ Series, MQ Broker, and WebSphere on AIX. We > > also have the Tivoli Data Warehouse which my management wants me to > > start using for capacity planning. However, with the release of Tivoli > > we are on the data warehouse processing isn't there yet. It won't > > summarize and prune the data coming from the z/OS systems so the detail > > data would keep growing unchecked thereby overrunning the database in no > > time. So I'm still using MXG to do capacity planning on z/OS and that's > > fine with me. However, once the release of Tivoli gets put in place > > that will do the summarization and pruning I'm afraid I'll be forced to > > use the data warehouse. The other stumbling block is that there is no > > built in facility for producing management reports from the data > > warehouse. The only way within Tivoli to access the data is via the > > TEP. To do real management reporting you have to get a reporting tool > > such as BIRT that will access a DB2 or Oracle database (the two formats > > used by the Tivoli Data Warehouse) to create your reports. IMHO the > > original Candle Omegamon product was designed to be an operational > > alerting and problem resolution tool, and it did that very well over the > > years. Now management, at least mine, wants the product to do > > everything and it's not making the grade. > > > > Tom Kelman > > Commerce Bank of Kansas City > > (816) 760-7632 > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Andrew McIntyre - Consulting IT Specialist > IBM System z(tm) Software Technical Sales > SMPO (Software Migration Project Office) > TMT (Tivoli Migration Team) > 404-487-2477 or tie 546-2477 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > SMPO > http://www.ibm.com/software/solutions/softwaremigration > NetView for z/OS > http://www.ibm.com/tivoli/products/netview-zos/resources/nv390-update.ht ml > System Automation for z/OS > http://www.s390.ibm.com/sa > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ***************************************************************************** If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. ***************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
