On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:37:54 -0500, Burrell, C. Todd 
(CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I think when we used to use Netview that Netview came up before 
VTAM, so
>this would explain the messages.  I believe that Netview should come 
up
>first from what I remember.
>...
>>We start VTAM before NetView.  Is that backwards?  Won't NetView
>>complain if VTAM isn't up?
>...

It doesn't really matter which comes up first.  If NetView comes up 
before VTAM it retries opening some of its VTAM ACBs every so often
(once a minute?).  Once VTAM is up and has activated NetView's 
appl defs, the OPENs will succeed.

If VTAM comes up first it tries contacting NetView via NetView's
program-to-program interface - part of NetView's SSI address space. 
If the SSI address space or the main NetView address space is not 
up, VTAM issues IST1205I and tries again later.

Either way you get nastygrams.  Everything is fine once both VTAM,
NetView, and NetView's SSI are all up.   

Pat O'Keefe

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