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Note: This e-mail is subject to the disclaimer contained at the bottom of this message. _______________________________________________________________________________________ Joel C. Ewing wrote: /snip I remember with wistful nostalgia Omegamon MVS back in the days when it was a manageable-sized product, before it became so complex that it required 7 x 70 VSAM datasets, umpteen dozen address spaces, and a whole platoon of server platforms to run. It's as if someone out there thinks System Programmer time and server platforms are free, or that our end goal is to configure and run this complex structure rather than just use it an incidental tool to measure a system that is doing real work. The level of complexity of these products has gotten to the point that I almost prefer installing a new release of z/OS to updating Omegamon products. /end snip Couldn't agree more. On one of our LPARS we have 28 Omegamon ASIDs (we have a lot of IMS subsystems on that LPAR). We have the TEP up and running on a "monitor PC" which is not directly attached to out LAN so we can get away with this. there is a separate group who manages the non-mainframe agents & servers etc. We actually live & Die by our modified version of the LPAR controls workspace (can't quite remember the name as I am not on site). It gives us the LPAR weighting / activity graph, as well as a speedo for CEC utilization & an Hour long historical graph/trend). whenever we get performance issues, it's where we look first (as well as some other groups). We then dive into the 3270 products to get to the real data. However, the RMF PM java tool does provide some of this, and I would expect that little tool to improve with new versions of z/OS. We have 12 LPARS all running mixed combinations of the Omegamon Tools, and I have found that how you configure your RTES can play a big part in the effort that you have to put into upgrades & maintenance. I am happy to share how we do it off list if anyone is interested. There was talk of breaking the products up into the GUI & Omegamon "lite" products sets, This would remove the old Omegamon II CUA layer, leaving the "classic" products for those who want only the 3270 interface & the GUI for those that want that feature. I think that this would be a really good thing to do, providing that there was a "classic" product for every agent on z/OS, and you were still able to get LPAR & Sysplex data on 3270. I have to own up to having worked previously for Candle, so I want to see the product continue and be relevant, even though I was made redundant shortly before the IBM takeover. Regards, --------------------------------------------- Stephen Hall Team Leader - Host Systems Technology Services - Infrastructure INSURANCE AUSTRALIA GROUP (IAG) _______________________________________________________________________________________ The information transmitted in this message and its attachments (if any) is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information, by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender and delete this e-mail and associated material from any computer. The intended recipient of this e-mail may only use, reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this e-mail and any attached files, with the permission of the sender. This message has been scanned for viruses with Symantec Scan Engine and cleared by MailMarshal. _______________________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

