John, IMHO You should try to stick with no paging even with memory object sorting. Buy more memory if you need it at $8K/G on z9 it's cheap and getting cheaper on z10 at $6K/G I think. If you are adding to your above the bar exploitation and paging already that does not make sense to me.
It may be overkill but I stick with a 1:1 space allocation in page space to central storage. That means some of our LPARs have 80GB+ of page space spread across many storage processors 0% used. Page space is cheap compared to explaining how you lost production with a WAIT 03C because you saved a few DASD volumes of page space that would not normally be used. The idea you will ADD a page volume dynamically and resolve an AUX STORAGE SHORTAGE won't work fast enough most of the time. If we have blown out the paging subsystem here and not resolved the problem Standalone dump and IPL is probably going to be the fastest recovery. If you under invest in page space and don't consider insuring you get enough bandwidth across multiple page data sets on multiple storage processors it may not hurt till it kills you. You won't know you don't have a robust enough paging configuration till things get all pear shaped. Remember you need to be able to absorb lots of pageable storage getting paged out and do it quickly. Even developments LPARs here have 14 LOCAL page data sets here. PAV helps but it is no substitute for sufficient space and multiple channels and storage processors ready to absorb the I/O spike. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO System z Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) 301.986.3574 "Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast..." -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Paging Subsystem -- "Comfortable" Size and Configuration? Hi, All, In preparation for z/OS 1.9 we're re-evaluating our paging subsystem configurations. Currently we're using the same size and configuration carried forward from "time immemorial", mainly because it still "works": Three (3) page datasets of 2,000 cylinders each, with one "in reserve" (available for PAGEADD) on each LPAR. Now we're looking at exploiting some of the newer "stuff" that uses above-the-bar storage (DFSORT's Memory Object sorting, for starters), and I believe our current sizing and configuration will prove inadequate "sooner" rather than "later". Right now our Development/Test LPAR runs on a z9BC, with 4GB central storage allocated. It does "light" to "moderate" paging. We also run our "sandbox" there, but it's substantially idle most of the time. The "primary" CF also lives on the BC. Production runs on a z9EC with 14GB central storage (the other 2GB are allocated to the backup CF), and the same paging subsystem configuration as above. This LPAR currently does NO paging, but is the image we believe would benefit most from exploiting Memory Object sorting. What would be a "comfortable" paging subsystem configuration, especially for the Production LPAR, as to individual size and (especially) number of page datasets? TIA, -jc- ==================== This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html