Apologies of a sort about this email. My outlook ... I use Windows Vista with Office 2007 ... I *strongly* recommend *against* it if anyone is thinking about it ...
Anyway, my Outlook likes to split groups of messages up, and I missed the large discussion before I sent this. So let me now go read the rest of the responses. David Logan Manager of Product Development, Pitney Bowes Software, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Logan Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 6:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers Hmmm, I find it interesting that I have two votes for IBMs Debug Tool, which is completely unusable to me. We write C++ programs here. My main app is something like 200 object modules. When I write a "Hello world" test app, fire it up under IBMs debug tool, it works great. When I try to debug our actual application, either the size or complexity is such that it just hacks up hairballs and dies. So I have filled my sources full of DEBUGX lines that I turn and off by module, and debug in batch via what turn out to be CEEMSG's. So are there viable alternatives to IBMs debug tool, or is this the one? If this is the one, I will have to give it another go so that I can explain in detail how it behaves badly. David Logan Manager of Product Development, Pitney Bowes Software, Inc. http://centrus.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Leahy Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:35 PM, David Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering if there are any function debuggers on z/OS these days. > Our shop is currently using z/OS 1.5, and the IBM provided LE debugger > (via the LE TEST options) is completely unusable for us. It always has > been. > > What suggestions might other people have? > We use IBM's Debug Tool for all of our COBOL debugging. Some of its competitors (Xpeditor for example) are more slick and have more features, but Debug Tool was priced right and has enough features to keep the programmers happy. We were formerly a MicroFocus Cobol shop, but we had allowed that tool kit to degrade over the years until it became less and less useful. At the end, we found it was cheaper to move to Debug Tool than to upgrade our MicroFocus. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

