I will give it a shot here whenever I'm not in eight hours worth of meetings, and I will let you know what happens exactly.
David Logan Manager of Product Development, Pitney Bowes Software, Inc. http://centrus.com 4750 Walnut St, Suite 200 Boulder, CO 80301 W: (720) 564-3056 C: (303) 818-8222 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: C++ Workable Mainframe Debuggers (and a Public z/OS HTTP Server) I agree with my IBM colleague. Please get those functional requirements into IBM. "Unusable," how? [And which version(s)?] We'd like to know! If you're unsure how to do that, please contact me offline. We eat our own cooking here, it's worth mentioning. We have a number of middleware products for z/OS (and many z/OS elements) written in C++, so IBM developers use Debug Tool in-house. IBM itself probably does more C++ development on z/OS than anyone. We need good C++ debugging functionality at least as much as you do. Re: C++ support, I'm having difficulty finding any other debuggers that support C++ on z/OS, much less in both 31-bit and 64-bit modes, much less both graphically and traditionally, aside from the two IBM has (Debug Tool/DTU&AF and dbx). Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken -- I hope I'm wrong -- but I've been unsuccessful in my searches thus far. I forgot to mention that there is an IBM Debug Tool "test drive" available, at least for the classic user interface. [I posted details previously on the test drive for the graphical workbench. But if you happen to have Rational Developer for System z or WebSphere Developer Debugger for System z, I believe we have the necessary Debug Tool TCP/IP port accessible on the test drive system for you to connect.] Start here to sign up: http://zserveros.dfw.ibm.com This test drive system is also available for trying many application development tools, DB2 tools, and IMS tools. We have Debug Tool Utilities & Advanced Functions Version 8.1 (the latest release) installed on the test drive system along with a bunch of other products. We try to keep this system up-to-date with all the latest releases. By the way, zserveros.dfw.ibm.com is an Internet-connected z/OS system running the IBM HTTP Server for z/OS. Somebody was asking if there were any z/OS HTTP servers directly connected to the Internet. There are; this is one. You can verify its status here: http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://zserveros.dfw.ibm.com It says "Last reboot: unknown" in the report. :-) It also says "OS/390," and yes, I've already written them to see if they can fix that. Apparently their scanner cannot distinguish between OS/390 and z/OS. If you need 3270 emulation (to access the test drive system), you can take the Host On-Demand test drive ("Try Your Own Host") here: http://websphere.dfw.ibm.com/whidemo/atdemo_hod_basics_live.html Please do not depend on the HOD test drive for real production use of course. Hope all that helps. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
