Thanks all your information and sharing. Actually, there are so many ways to transfer files from HOST system but we still have to cope with the internal/external auditor each year. We can't say "nothing we can do". Nothing is prefect, but taking notes/remember the coding and picture some photo we can stop it. We can just try our best to protect the shop resources. To be a system programmer, we have responsibility to deal with it. Frankly, we have many communication path, AFTP (protect by program) , FTP (we are not open yet), Ind$file (I create a dummy program on top of it), HDS (rapidxchange disk/share open & host, can trace on SMF log volume). * I think we have to stop the way that they can get the files more easily and we are not aware, such as ind$file path. How many pictures you have to take or remember if there are thousand of program coding?
regards On 4/21/08, Patrick O'Keefe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:29:28 -0500, Kenneth E Tomiak > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >After awhile I start to spot a trend from some people posting here that > they > >are not trying to learn how to do something, they have figured out how to > get > >IBM-MAIN to do their job for them. > >... > > Let me present another interpretation of some of those trends (but > not, I think, applicable to the original poster of this thread). > > I'm not knew to system programming - I chased my first CDE chain > in about 1970 (on MVT) - but I've been involved in communication- > related software for so long that nobody would mistake me for an > experienced MVS system programmer any more. I'm woefully out > of date regarding anything but very basic MVS concepts. So I > sometimes ask really bonehead questions. And if you search the > archives you may find that I've asked the same bonehead questions > years earlier. > > Does that mean I'm lazy and am trying to get IBM-Main to do my > work? I hope not. It might mean I didn't incorporate the answers > into my working knowledge because the topic was too peripheral to > my usual work. Or it might be an indication of a failing memory. (And > it definitely means I'm to lazy or forgetful to have searched the > archives.) > > > >So if someone asks how to audit a program 'A' and then later asks how to > >audit program 'B', did they learn anything the first time? ... > > If this happens too many times (and twice is too many) my paranoia > kicks in. Many of the responses to "How do I audit IND$FILE?" have > been "That isn't sufficient because ...". I can just picture someone > taking notes: "I can avoid the auditing if ...". > > Far fetched? Sure. I said it was my paranoia. But it's something to > consider when answering questions like that. > > Pat O'Keefe > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
