On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:40:36 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:57:22 -0500, Kammer, Charles
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>...  I just guess there isn't a lot of interest in VTAM anymore...
>
>And yet the APPN and EE sessions are always pretty well attended
>at SHARE.   There probably is no market for a VTAM/NCP course, but
>there probably is for a VTAM/APPN course.   But the market is small
>at any one time and for any one level of experience.
>
>IBM (or some other company) would be smart to develop a set of
>web-based classes giving
>  VTAM basics for the MVS system programmer
>  APPN basics for people that have VTAM basics
>  Enterprise Extender basics for those with basic APPN knowledge
>  Basic SNA problem determination and solution
>  APPN / EE problem determination and solution
>
>Actually, I'd be surprised if that hadn't already been done.
>

ADG (James E. Anderson) taught some excellent VTAM classes in the past
and IIRC he also taught CICS classes.  I took one in 1996 (one of the
few formal education opportunities I had in my career prior to my current
employer).    One of the best parts of the classes were the small VTAM
booklets Jim gave you as part of the class (similar to the OS/VS2 debugging
handbooks mentioned recently in this forum).  After the class I kept in touch
with Jim and even got him a gig teaching an on-site class at one of my 
clients (which I was allowed to attend for free - although I could not bill 
my client for the time :-) ).   I think attendance dropped off to the point 
where he could no longer teach the classes and last I heard from him
(which was quite a few years ago) he was doing assembler programming
for some ISV (I don't recall which one).  

Jim, if you are out there... Hello!  

Mark
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