My MVS guy IPL'ed 1 of our dev systems under z/OS 1.8 --- I ran the
template job, he then re-ipled that system and then brought the other
Development systems up under 1.8. We ran Dev 1.8 and Prod 1.7 for about
a month with no problems.


Keep in mind that the Migration Guide indicates to do it this way. IE:

"Security Server actions to perform after the first IPL of z/OS V1R8.

This section describes Security Server migration actions that you can
perform only after you have IPLed z/OS V1R8. You need a running z/OS
V1R8 system to perform these actions. 

Update database templates Description: To ensure that the RACF utilities
function properly, use the IRRMIN00 utility to update the test and
production RACF databases with the database templates for the current
release level."



Also, there is a z/OS 1.7 - 1.8 "compatibility issue" ... Migration
Guide also indicates:

Security Server: In z/OS V1R8, the structure of the RACF database was
changed to allow a template block to be continued into another block.
The PTF allows a z/OS V1R7 system to process templates that extend into
another block. If you share a RACF database between z/OS V1R8 and z/OS
V1R7, you need to install the PTF on the z/OS V1R7 system. UA24980






Rgrds, Joseph Sumi
Lockheed Martin Information Technology
z/OS & RACF Systems Programming





-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Andy Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Question on RACF database upgrade for z/OS 1.7->1.8

Hi

Just starting to plan the 1.7-> 1.8 z/OS upgrade

We have a four-system sysplex and intent to go to 1.8 by doing a rolling

update over a week.  Ie there will be about a week with some systems
running 
z/OS 1.8 and some running z/OS 1.7

One thing I can't seem to find unambiguous information about is the
update 
path for the RACF database, ((which is shared by all systems in the
plex)) 

At the moment we plan to do the following:

a) ON a 1.7 SYSTEM  run IRRMIN00 UPDATE at level 1.8 (ie with the
service 
pack library STEPLIBed) against the 1.7 primary database.  

b) ON a 1.7 SYSTEM  run IRRMIN00 UPDATE at level 1.8 (ie with the
service 
pack library STEPLIBed) against the 1.7 secondary database.  

c) Run for a few days

d) IPL some systems from the 1.8 residence pack

e) Run for a few more days doing other testing

f)  Ipl all systems from the 1.8 residence pack



Is this safe?  Will the 1.7 systems tolerate the 1.8 templates in the 
database?  Or should we go the other way and do the upgrade after we IPL
to 
1.8?

Hope this is clear.

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