On Thu, 29 May 2008 05:43:29 -0500, Magen Margalit 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
>We are trying to migrate out CICS TOR from cross domain to VTAM GR.
>...

Right off the bat, I'm confused.  I understand going from a non-GR 
to a GR configuration, but sessions that had been cross-domain are
still going to be cross-domain.  

>...
>We have followed following procedure:
>1. Shutting down TOR
>2. Make definition chages in order that current applid will be VTAM GR 
id
>3. vtam ACT to the new TOR applid.
>4. vtam INACT (force) to the old TOR applid.
>5. Restart TOR.
>
>We have encountered the following situation:
>D net to the old TOR appid shows the the cross domain is still there
>...

"The cross domain is still there"???   A hard-coded CDRSC defintion?
A dynamic CDRSC definition?  A cross-domain session?  I'm not sure
what you are sayig here.

>...
>and some terminals are in POLUIO status under it.  ...

I think the POLUIO status relates strictly to the SSCP-LU session -
VTAM has sent a USS message and is waiting for a response.  I've 
seen this only with SLUs under real PUs, but maybe VTAM does 
some special USS handling in GR configurations.   

I think we need Chris Mason to chime in about now. 

>...
>Other terminal's seemed to be working via the VTAM GR.
>...

I don't understand "working via the VTAM GR".  Do you mean that 
they succeeded when logging onto the GR name?  A Generic Resource
is just a way of associating one "virtual" APPLid with a number of 
real APPLids (with a lot of coding behind that "just").  

BTW, I assume you have multiple TORs you are trying to put 
"under" a GR name.  Yes?  If not, what are you trying to achieve 
with a Generic Resource configuration?

>...
>We brouht down the TOR again and used INACT+FORCE+DELETE
>and the cross domain appl was still there.
>...

"Cross domain appl"?  A cross-domain resource is the local 
representation of an LU in another domain.   It may be an appl in
its own domain but it's a CDRSC in the local domain.   Are you saying 
the the CDRSC was still active?  That's normal.  If it's a hard-coded
CDRSC it will stay forever.  If it's dynamic CDRSC it will eventually
be delated based on some internal VTAM timer.

>
>Questions:
>1. It seems that terminals tring to conect after the TOR was up
>   worked vis the VTAM GR and others were stucked under the
>   old cross domain definition...

I guess I still don't understand the configuration.  Did you take what
had been a regular TOR APPLid, change it to a GR name and change 
one or more TOR APPLids to new names under the GR name?  The
sessions that are hung were pending when you changed your
config?  If so, their problem probably relates as much to the old
config as to the new one.  If not, could you explain it again?  

>...
>2. On the D net command, fields: Active Sessions was  0000 and
>    SESSION REQUESTS was > 0000 can this be the reason?

What did you display?

Let's hope Chris Mason takes interest in this.  He's the VTAM
expert around here.

Pat O'Keefe

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