Sorry

There was supposed to be a [2] following the name of the "man of steel".

Chris Mason

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:16:54 -0500, Chris Mason 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Ian
>
>... and "before" was when you used VTAM obviously and probably
>understood "USS" to mean "Unformatted System Services".[1]
>
>The fact that you hark back to the good old days may indicate that you 
retain
>the entirely reasonable expectation that, if data can find its way from A to B,
>it should jolly well be able to find its way back from B to A - a "given" in 
>the
>connection-oriented SNA world.
>
>Regrettably, thanks, I was told, to Iosef Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili, aka
>Stalin and his propensity for aiming WMD at the US, the network invented to
>cater for the mass destruction of communication facilities which could result
>from a launch of these weapons, IP is connectionless.
>
>This is all a massively verbose way to hint that your problem may be simply
>that the outbound route works but the inbound route does not. Thus, before
>you go to all the trouble of tracing anything in the old "VTAM buffer" way, 
you
>might like to try the traceroute command at the B node in order to find out
>where the routing definitions are "broken".
>
>I hope you'll be able to say "I'll drink to that!"
>
>Chris Mason
>
>[1] I see my preference for this usage has attracted some notoriety; regular
>contributor Timothy has used it as an example of the proper use of the list!
>
>[2] In a reassignment/redesign of the library at an education centre where I
>used to work into a sort-of "internet cafe" without the coffee, a blank space
>was left between two doors with busy corridors on two sides. It seemed
>obvious to me - but not the local management - that it was the ideal location
>for a bust of the person most responsible for inspiring the Internet.
>
>Chris Mason
>
>On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:49:31 +0100, Ian S. Worthington
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I've been asked to look at some problems communicating with an application
>>running under USS from a z/linux system.
>>
>>Symptoms seem to be that the input's arriving and being processed, but the
>>reply message isn't making it back.
>>
>>What's the best way of tracing ip comms under uss?  When I used to do this
>>before it was get a vtam buffer trace, but I'm not sure if there's a better
>>way under uss.
>>
>>Suggestions welcome.
>>
>>
>>ian
>>...
>>
>>Ian S. Worthington, MBCS.
>>
>>me:     http://isw.me.uk/
>>photos: http://gallery.isw.me.uk/
>>
>>Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, sed dulcius pro patria vivere, et
>>dulcissimus pro patria biber. Ergo, bibiamo pro salute patriae.

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