Miklos,
The product I mentioned, ProSMS (StopX37), has been around as a vendor
product for many years, even before IBM's DFSMS was born. If you want more
information about it, see "BMC MAINVIEW Allocation" (that's its current
name). In a big, traditional non-SMS shop, where I have worked, this product
has been a lifesaver for many years, controlling DASD dataset allocations,
preventing Sx37 - abends and doing other space management functions under
the covers that make life of a storage admin a lot easier.

IMHO, the only things you can do with undefined DSORG datasets are
(1) throw them away ... make that a DASD management policy: if undefined
DSORG, delete after 7 days (or so).
(2) change them after x days unused to force DSORG=PS and then let your
normal space management processes handle them / dispose of them (archive,
expire, etc).
The PDS program on CBT tape has a function which allows the dataset's DSORG
to be set to PS. There might be others, too.


Regards,
Ulrich Krueger


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Miklos Szigetvari
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 09:38
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Migrate with undefined DSORG

Hi

Thank you

Ulrich Krueger wrote:

>Miklos,
>DFHSM does not migrate datasets with unspecified DSORG. You should be
>getting a corresponding ARC... error message.
>Question(s): Do these datasets contain data that you can read/write with a
>program? If so, what is it? 
>Or are they just allocated space that was never opened by a program (so
that
>the DCB could be properly filled in with all attributes including DSORG)? 
>  
>
This is the case. The datasets only allocated, but never opened, and as 
I don't see the users intention, I don't want to delete them.

>Are these datasets referenced and actually used (open, read/write, close)
in
>any production JCL? 
>I suspect that you may be able to just delete these datasets.
>OTOH, if you have ProSMS (aka StopX37), you could use it to force
open/close
>any dataset allocated in JCL that is not opened/closed by the executing
>program. That ensures a valid DSORG and the dataset now becomes a candidate
>for automatic DFHSM space management, incr. Backup and migration.
>  
>
We don't have  this ProSMS (Is it a freeware ? )
We have a utility which processes  the DCOLLECT outputs, I will try to 
insert here to open this dataset's

>Regards,
>Ulrich Krueger
>

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