On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:00:20 -0500 Wayne Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

:>Of course superzap does have checking that allows installations to restrict
:>the zapping of VTOC's, so this may (should??) not be available to the OP.

More than one way to skin a cat. One can write a program to rewrite the VTOC
(but that also requires some authorization - to open the VTOC for update).

:>-----Original Message-----
:>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
:>Of Mike Liberatore
:>Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 4:37 PM
:>To: [email protected]
:>Subject: Re: PDS Lock
:>
:>you could zap the FMT-1 dscb for this data set  to turn the password bit 
:>off of ourse if you want to
:>
:>Scott Rowe wrote:
:>
:>>I'm not sure that is completely true, I remember there being an issue, but
:>I don't remember the details.  Not all datasets were protected by RACF
:>(there were no GROUPs or profiles for most HLQs), so that might have had
:>something to do with it.
:>> 
:>>Do you have a reference for PASSWORD protection being ignored?  I would be
:>interested in trying to recall what the problem was, I think it had
:>something to do with switching sysres, and the PASSWORD dataset not having
:>an entry for a protected dataset.
:>>
:>>  
:>>
:>>>>>Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2008 2:50 PM >>>
:>>>>>        
:>>>>>
:>>On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:36:29 -0400, Scott Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>>
:>>  
:>>
:>>>I make it a point NOT to have a PASSWORD dataset on my sysres.  I
:>consulted
:>>>    
:>>>
:>>at a shiop a few years ago that had one, and it was a PITA, since they were
:>>securing some datasets with password, and others using RACF, believe it or
:>not.
:>>  
:>>
:>>
:>>If they had RACF then nothing was being secured with PROTECT.
:>>
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