> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S.
> 
> David Crayford wrote:
> [...]
> > 15 years ago I worked on one of the first mainframe DB2 data
warehouse
> > systems in the UK. We used SP2 AIX boxes for the mining, and they
were
> > very quick back then. I suppose it all depends on the z10 and how
IBM
> > prices them...
> 
> > They seem to be making an effort to bring to TCO down.
> Well, at risk of going to new war I disagree. <g>
> I don't see too much effort.
> 0.9 MSU is good thing to compete with second hand market.
> 
> The only thing I could consider as the effort are software tools,
> especially "must have" ones. IBM develops (or buys) many various tools
> IMHO not only to compete with large ISVs, but also to give customers
> real choice. Is CA-1 too expensive? Then choose RMM. Competition means
> lower prices even for those who stay with CA, BMC, others products.

And competition fosters improvements in the products themselves.  For
example, would DFSORT have its present capabilities and features, had
Syncsort (et al) not existed?  Indeed, would Syncsort have advanced to
its current state, had DFSORT not decided to "play leapfrog" with them?

Prospective loss of market share can be a powerful motivator.....  :-)

    -jc-

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