Look at licensing costs for Oracle (and other products licensed per CPU). Last I heard was around $40K per CPU. If I can replace 4-5 Intel servers with a single IFL software costs alone generate savings.
The larger question is can IFL/z/VM compete with Intel/Vmware (or equivalent) when ALL costs are considered. Ken Porowski AVP Systems Software CIT Group E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- John McKown On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:57:32 +0200, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >John McKown wrote: >[...] >> Of course, this still does not address the horrendous cost of >> software for the z, especially z/OS. >Yes :-( > >> Comparing a z penguin farm (Linux) to an Intel penguin farm, the z >> would almost always win. [...] >No. BTDT. It depends on requirements for HW quality. Intel penguin farm >could mean high-end xSeries or blades, or simply bunch of regular PCs >(see Google). I really don't care about memory overallocation in PC, >because 1GB costs less than $100 (compared to $8k in z), I don't care >about CP overallocation, because Intel/AMD CP is $300 (compared to >$125k for IFL in z). Disks could be the same or I can choose much >cheaper disks for PC. >Floor space, HVAC, energy bills - still no significant savings here. >Ecology - well I like green, but I won't plug out my fridge, my boss >won't pay many thousands $$$ for being greener a little bit. >...and VM is not free. >Last but not least: each of PCs in a flock can run Linux or Microsoft >Windows as well. > >-- >Radoslaw Skorupka >Lodz, Poland Thanks for the correction. But, from your comments, I would take it that the System z is simply not worth using, except for z/OS (maybe z/VSE) legacy work. If this is true, then I see no reason why any company would get a z for new work. And, if a company could move its workload from, say, CICS to WAS, it would be less expensive to run that work on Intel. Not a nice picture. But, with any luck, I'll die of a massive coronary before I lose my current job (and the economy is getting bad enough that that is becoming more of a probability). -- John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
