On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:49:19 -0500, Jim Mulder 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>...we consider those to be production systems,
>and the systems programming and operations is contracted out to
>IBM Global Services, and so we don't activate the traps on those 
>systems.

While not stated, I suspect IGS would see running with the traps
as a threat to the system integrity.  Production work running into
unexpected residual data in storage or unexpected alignment is
nothing the out-sourcer - an application problem.  But problems 
as the ones Ed described in his experience with early 1.8 with the 
traps turned on?  Those would count against the out-sourcer's 
up-time.  

This is another mark against out-sourcing that I had not thought of
before.   It will take IBM longer to find and fix serious but subtle
bugs in the operating system.  

I assume many customers, not just ISVs, have been willing to cope
with lowered system integrity on non-critical systems in order to 
help IBM debug problems.  (I know that's the case in shops I've
worked.)  It is probably harder to get an out-sourcer to agree with
this.  Or, more likely, the customer would have to pay for that 
lessened system integrity.  It certainly would have to pay for the 
extra work the out-sourced operations and system programming 
staff would have to do when problems surface. 

This bodes ill for the future.

Pat O'Keefe 

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