I just had this conversation with someone. We used use source code and PLMs to understand the workings of a lot of the VM and MVS components. Thats how a lot of us dinos evolved....lol Scott J Ford
________________________________ From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:59:07 AM Subject: Re: OCO, documentation, support from IBM-Main, etc. (was Re: Health Checker questions) In <[email protected]>, on 12/11/2008 at 02:13 PM, "Arthur T." <[email protected]> said: >It's been a long time since IBM went OCO. When they did, >didn't they promise better documentation to make up for the inability >to see what the programs are actually doing? ObFlounder Yes, and they broke that promise before the ink was dry. In some cases the documentation actually got worse. >He deserves better than being talked down to. He is rude enough that I don't see where he has a valid claim to curtesy. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html> We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

