On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:27:43 -0500, Jousma, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have to agree, why in this day in age, would you want to create the >mess of consolidated datasets..... > >Converting to LIBDEF is a simple matter. Easy for you to say. I'm in the process of converting dozens of infrastructure users over to LIBDEF for our applications. We can eliminate some merged datasets, but not all. I have 30 years of evolution to overcome, thousands of users to support on 25+ z/OS instances, and each major application group has their own flavor of an allocation Clist, bastardized from some Clist that some techie wrote with "system" dataset names created before I knew what a computer was, each with it's own primary option menu stuffed in some panel library I can't even open for READ. This shop used to copy outside of ServerPac. At least now we manage the beast with SMP/E. With business as bad as it is, I can little afford to disrupt it further and cost thousands to millions of dollars per hour when someone can't get to their data because I broke their ability to logon. Many of our end users don't even know they are logging into a mainframe. An applications rep (or their predecessor) hands them a script and says, "Here, follow this recipe once a week." LIBDEF is the Nerdvana of TSO/E & ISPF support, but the summit is barely visible from where I stand today. It will be a long time before I can twist each application owner's arm into building off a standard base and take responsibility for their own, especially with outsourcing and head-cutting becoming the norm, rather than the exception. If only I could start from scratch... I, too, could be just like Tom (now, I have attended his SHARE pitches, found them highly useful, am trying to apply the knowledge here, and always appreciated his time answering my pedantic inquiries, so Thank You). Regards, Art Gutowski Ford Motor Company ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
