> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe

> 
> Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> > On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:51:33 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote:
> >
> >>[ snip ]
> >>
> >> RACF didn't fold the password until recently.
> >>
> > All the more reason, then, that applications should _never_ have
> > folded passwords.  It merely prevented users' employing a
> > capability present in the underlying system.
> 
> No. Failure to fold password on older RACF systems resulted in logon
> failure. Folding by the application was mandatory.

Sounds like a "chicken <-> egg" situation.  If RACF didn't fold
passwords initially, that suggests that uppercase-only passwords were
not "mandatory" at least as far as RACF was concerned.  The question
then becomes one of why applications "mandated" uppercase-only passwords
in the first place.

But since they (apparently) did, it's easier to understand why RACF
started folding passwords (presumably) when they explicitly implemented
the option for mixed-case passwords (at z/OS 1.7?).

   -jc-

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