Leo

> SNA Formats (this is an obsolete book, I believe, ...

I see from your e-mail address hat you are "inside" IBM. I suggest you check 
your "beliefs" before you put such arrant nonsense in your posts.

The following is an address taken from the manual where you can dispense 
with your "beliefs" and substitute them with facts:

<quote>

IBM Corporation
Application & Integration Middleware
Department BRQA/Building 501
PO Box 12195
Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709-9990

</quote>

> Network Job Entry Formats and Protocols ?

I must say I can't find any clue in John's post that he had the slightest 
interest in NJE!!!

Since I have been following John's VTAM-related posts of late, I expect he is 
probably wanting to work out how encrypted data used to assure the identity 
of the session partners is carried in the BIND request, the BIND response and 
the FMH12 which completes the 3-way flow. This information, as up-to-date 
as it needs to be given we are dealing quite correctly with slow-moving 
architecture, can only be found in the "SNA Formats" manual which had 
a "level 0" in 1977[1] and a proud "level 20" as recently as 2004.

Are all RFCs older than 5 years "obsolete"?

> ... no longer part of the product doc package)

To which "product doc" package would you be referring?

Chris Mason

[1] Which, when it was called "Systems Network Architecture Reference 
Summary",  I keep in my desk as a memento - and occasional reference!

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:07:31 -0500, Leo Smith <[email protected]> 
wrote:

>| Anybody know where I can find a BookManager format (preferred) or PDF of
>| the "SNA Formats" or "SNA Network Formats" manuals?
>
>Network Job Entry Formats and Protocols ?
>
>Bookmanager book:
>http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/HAS2A620
>
>PDF::
>http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/has2a620.pdf
>
>or
>
>SNA Formats (this is an obsolete book, I believe, no longer part of the
>product doc package)
>http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/D50A5006
>
>Leo

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