Mike:

Someone at GUIDE submitted a requirement that requested something like you are 
doing. IIRC it was rejected by IBM. I can honestly see both sides of the 
argument. It got a little hot in the room after IBM rejected it. IBM was 
adamant about it. The suggestion I would give to you is build a STRONG business 
case for it and resubmit as a SHARE REQUIREMENT and see what happens. Do not 
forget to put costs for people to doing something like this. Just build a 
business case and you might get IBM to change their mind. I doubt it but it is 
worth a try.

Ed


--- On Tue, 3/17/09, Spencer, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Spencer, Mike <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: changing management class on about 10000 datasets
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 3:40 PM
> Once a file is migrated you cannot
> change the management class without recalling the data
> set.  Management class is driven during allocation,
> recall and rename.  The ALTER command will recall the
> data set.  
> The suggestion is to produce a list of the migrated data
> sets that have the management class in question.  You
> can create your own REXX or SAS code to perform the ALTER on
> a controlled set of data sets each time of execution. 
> As with Mr. MacNeil, SAS was the method I used many, many
> years ago.  HLIST and DCOLLECT are two examples of
> creating the list of data sets to be altered.
> There are also ISV products that will perform the task for
> you.  MAINVIEW SRM from BMC as a report that will build
> ALTER Control cards for you and perform the HRECALL based on
> the users input.  There is also a component that will
> override the Mangagement Class for you on all new
> allocations without having to update the ACS routines. 
> The same job that will perform the ALTER against the
> migrated data sets will also do anything that is on primary
> DASD and considered "active".   
> 
> 
> Michael Spencer
> BMC Software
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: changing management class on about 10000
> datasets
> 
> >From what I've gathered, the new mgmt class will only
> apply to new 
> >datasets or the old ones if they get migrated or
> recalled, but I can't
> mass change these old datasets while they are at rest.
> 
> You're correct.
> You cannot change any migrated dataset, at rest.
> The ACS routines are only re-driven at recall.
> And, ALTER will probably recall.
> Then, you are stuck until the new retention period has
> expired.
> 
> I'd suggest an HLIST output, parsed by a REXX programme to
> generate HDELs.
> I've not done it myself, but HLIST output is eminately
> PARSable.
> 
> I did do it, with SAS, 20 years ago.
> 
> -
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