On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:49:26 -0500, Tom Marchant <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:36:42 -0500, John McKown wrote:
>
>>I'm a bit curious. If I understand what is being done, it is similar to a
>>Java JVM. The z/VOS reads and interprets the x86 arch instructions, with
>>some JIT on the side. However, other companies, such as AMD, need cross
>>licensing to create chips which run x86.
>
>Do they?

I am certain that AMD and Via have cross licensing agreements with Intel. I
know because Intel has recently indicated that AMD is violating that agreement.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,7832_12670_12686,00.html

>
>>That "cross licensing" is part of
>>IBM's complaint against PSI. PSI was not licensed to create a zArchitecture
>>emulator.
>
>I thought that the problem with PSI (and Hercules, for that matter) was not
>about the emulation of the hardware, but the licensing of z/OS.

Hum, parts of z/Architecture are patented. Not the hardware to perform the
function, but the actual function itself - indepandant of the
implementation. Neither Hercules/390 nor PSI had a license for those parts
of the z/Architecture, even though they implemented them (not totally sure
about Hercules/390 on this point).

Also, as I remember (Danger, Will Robinson!), part of IBM's argument was
that PSI's implementation of the z/Architecture was not verified by IBM. IBM
said that in that case, the use of licensed IBM software (z/OS et al.) could
not be guaranteed. However, much of IBM's "premium" for their software was
due to IBM's guarantees on the reliability of the software. If the hardware
was "not up to snuff", then IBM might suffer damage to its reputation for
reliability if the software (z/OS) were to fail. This was the "logic" as to
why IBM refused to license z/OS et al. on the PSI solution.

>
>--
>Tom Marchant

-- 
John

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