Daniel

And I'm afraid I don't speak your argot either. [1]

I'm here because I spotted the word "VTAM" in you post.

My first reaction was "If you don't use it, you very obviously don't need it." 
But maybe you have a niggling suspicion that you should be using it - after 
all, 
you've been paying CA for it - it must do something.

Then I asked myself, you must still be using VTAM or you wouldn't be posting 
this question - would you? So, if you are using VTAM, there must be someone 
in your shop who does "speak VTAM" - mustn't there? So why didn't you ask 
your "VTAM man/woman"?

Assuming you just don't have someone who "speaks VTAM" right now for 
whatever reason, you might like to get a suitable consultant in to review the 
product, review your use of VTAM and the VTAM applications and other SNA 
products if any. He/she can then advise you on whether or not you need 
NetSpy.

Now to give you some orientation in the meantime:

CA do not let me access the manuals so I have to go on what I can glean 
from product briefs and the like. Incidentally, the product brief I found dates 
from last year, 2008, and includes, in its support for VTAM buffer pools, two 
pools fairly recently introduced, all of which indicates that CA still regard 
it as 
a current product.

I get the impression it covers the same ground as NetView Performance 
Monitor, originally Network Performance Manager (both NPM).

If that is the case, you need to review your network for 3745s, NCPs, and 
end-to-end SNA sessions running from the VTAM applications to devices 
capable of supporting the SNA PU entity. If you don't have those sorts of 
things anymore, you will have no need for the functions which NPM - and I 
assume NetSpy - considered "grist to their mill".

For example, you may still have VTAM applications such as TSO - and maybe 
even still NJE, CICS and IMS using SNA and an SNA flavour of some utility 
functions such as file transfer - but the infrastructure could be quite 
different 
from the infrastructure for which NPM and NetSpy were created. Within a 
sysplex you will be using XCF links, between sysplexes you may be using MPC 
CTC links and links to anywhere else will be using Enterprise Extender (SNA 
APPN/HPR over IP) through OSA features in QDIO mode. Your end-users will 
gain access to the network of VTAM applications by means of, ideally, a 
duplexed TN3270 server exploiting distributed dynamic VIPAs, possibly with an, 
ideally, duplexed session monitor application exploiting VTAM generic resources.

If your CA/NetSpy salesman and his/her technical support can offer you 
something you can be persuaded you really need to use in this environment, 
then maybe you can be persuaded to continue with NetSpy - or use some 
more up-to-date products, possibly in its stead

Chris Mason
 
[1] "The 'B.M.T.' sandwich at Subway was originally named after the 'Brooklyn-
Manhattan Transit.' Consisting of sliced genoa salami, pepperoni, ham and 
your choice of salad, it has become one of the chain's most popular subs."

[2] Here I have to admit that the shop where I work from time to time as a 
consultant just recently lost their "VTAM man" and the replacement is 
someone who used to be a "VTAM man" some years before and now 
does "routers" and the like - in addition to his new, "flashback", role!

On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:55:10 -0500, Daniel McLaughlin 
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Boss has this in his budget but it hasn't been used here since BMT. Looked at
>CA site and didn't derive much useful info from the manuals, maybe because I
>don't speak VTAM.
>
>  1. What's it for?
>  2. In a small monoplex without a lot of outside traffic is it useful?
>
>Thank you...even for the rib pokes!

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