Mark

> XCF is oriented to sysplexes and, as you say, your two LPARs do not belong 
to a sysplex.

This is not quite as clear as it should be. I should have said "do not belong 
to 
the *same* sysplex". You did say that the LPARs belonged to sysplexes, just 
different sysplexes.

While I'm here again, I may as well add that you might be able to survive with 
the default values for the related VTAM definitions but you should be *aware* 
that you are relying on those related VTAM definitions even if the default 
values work with your configuration.

Chris Mason

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:59:47 -0500, Chris Mason 
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Mark
>
>As Lionel Dyck pointed out, the key characteristic of an HiperSockets
>connection is that it is between two LPARs on the same Central Electronic
>Complex (CEC). Since you mentioned that the two LPARs you want to 
connect
>using an HiperSockets connection share an OSA feature, you imply thereby
>that the two LPARs belong to the same CEC. The fact that you share an OSA
>feature in itself is not significant for an HiperSockets connection.
>
>Here is a technical presentation designed to introduce you to HiperSockets
>with z/OS:
>
>http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/PRS3120
>
>If you need help with another operating system, z/VM or z/Linux, try the IBM
>pages search box - as I just did.
>
>I'm a little bit familiar with the z/OS use of HiperSockets and, if it's z/OS 
>that
>interests you, you should go to section "HiperSockets concepts and
>connectivity" under "Considerations for networking hardware attachment"
>under Chapter 2, "IP configuration overview" in the Communications Server IP
>Configuration Guide.
>
>You will quickly see that you are encouraged to establish your HiperSockets
>connections using the IPCONFIG statement DYNAMICXCF parameter. This is,
>of course, the second source of confusion with HiperSockets - assuming that
>some imagined association with OSA features was the first! XCF is oriented to
>sysplexes and, as you say, your two LPARs do not belong to a sysplex. This is
>a case of IBM trying to be helpful - and saving themselves the need to create
>new definition structures - but ending up causing quite understandable
>confusion.
>
>So just grit your teeth and use the DYNAMICXCF parameter anyhow!
>
>Be aware that there are two VTAM start options which relate directly to
>HiperSockets, IQDCHPID and IQDIOSTG. Also the use of HiperSockets can
>affect the VTAM buffer pools so the usual monitoring of VTAM buffer pool
>usage will be called into play.
>
>I see at least one responder has eschewed using the DYNAMICXCF parameter
>in favour of specifying all the bits and pieces individually. All the while
>continuing with the confusion caused by associating HiperSockets with
>sysplexes and XCF, you will find assurance in specifying the bits and pieces in
>the section "HiperSockets" under "Dynamic XCF" under "Connectivity in a
>sysplex" under Chapter 8, "TCP/IP in a sysplex" in the Communications Server
>IP Configuration Guide. You will need to read the earlier sections
>under "Dynamic XCF" to appreciate that suitable statements for DEVICE, LINK,
>ROUTE and START and suitable statement entries for HOME and
>BSDROUTINGPARMS are all created for you when you use the DYNAMICXCF
>parameter. This being so you may not need to bother with your own ROUTE
>statements or the OMPROUTE address space. However, you will, as always,
>need to consider the routing implications for the rest of your IP network as
>necessary.
>
>You didn't actually say you were interested in SNA traffic - but then you
>didn't specifically say you were interested in IP traffic either! Allan 
>Staller's
>point that HiperSockets connections cannot be defined for use directly with
>SNA  - as can be the similar but different XCF connections - may be 
important
>for you. If SNA does interest you, as Allan says, you will need to implement
>Enterprise Extender and you *will* be using APPN, and the HPR flavour of
>APPN, and not what Allan calls "xDomain" by which I assume he means 
subarea
>SNA.
>
>You are *not* using QDIO with HiperSockets but rather *i*QDIO,
>aka "internal" QDIO. QDIO involves OSA features whereas iQDIO comes "at no
>extra charge" with the CEC hardware.
>
>Finally John McKown's suggestion to search the manuals with "IQD" as a
>search word turns up another important reference and a poorly labeled
>appendix. In Appendix D, "Using HCD", of the Communications Server IP
>Configuration Guide you will see a discussion of how to define your
>HiperSockets to the "hardware" - and only that as far as I can see with a
>quick glance! I have never had actually to do this so I might have missed the
>reference without John's prompt. Otherwise the only hits for "IQD" are in the
>sections I mentioned already.
>
>Chris Mason
>
>On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:34:59 -0700, Mark Yuhas
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>We would like to configure the linkage between two LPARs and
>>Hipersockets.  The LPARs are members of two different sysplexes.
>>However, these LPARs are utilizing the same OSA card.
>>
>>If this configuration is feasible and/or possible, where is this
>>documented and are there examples?
>>
>>TIA.

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