On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:08:35 -0500, Field, Alan C. wrote:

>Here's more of the explanation:
>
>"Order  B8456491 was Rejected at 06:50:56 04/23/2009</TEXT>
><TEXT>UA46439
>(CO-REQ) <--- Fix not found</TEXT> </COER_REJ>
>.
>From the above, the order failed as Co-Req UA46439 was not found.
>Looking at UA46439, it has been closed Cancel.  This will need to be
>addressed by the ptf owners, DFSMSHSM.  UA46439 should still not be
>being called out if it has been cancelled."
>
Understood.  Perhaps there was a process violation: when a PTF
is canceled, should all dependent PTFs be canceled alike?  This
may be impractical, sometimes involving an inordinate amount of
rework.

An alternative is to provide HOLDDATA:

    ++ HOLD( UA46439 ) ERROR REASON( UA46640 ) ...

etc. to cause SMP/E to seek the COR PTF when UA46439 is called
out.

Alas, I fear I've had such discussions (dare I say disagreements)
with our own development leaders:  "Why bother with ++HOLD ERROR
if the PTF is CANcelled and will never be distributed?"  This
scenario provides the reason.  The counter argument is that ++HOLD
ERROR creates a bad impression whether with customers or performance
review.

And in the OP's text, I see much ShopZ jargon, as opposed to SMP/E.
Is it possible that ShopZ fails to understand SMP/E's processing
or to reflect its structures fully?  If so, so much the worse for
ShopZ.

My present (for the time being) employer's web site has a much
richer structure than my former (in a manner of speaking) employer's.
I now work for a company with a more significant software LOB.
Their service web site has a concept of PRErequisite and SUPERsede
(only the jargon is different).  More dismaying is that the rules
differ.  The structure welcomed by SMP/E:

    ++ PTF( A ) ...

    ++ PTF( B ) ... PRE( A ) ...

    ++ PTF( C ) ... PRE( B ) SUP( A ) ...

is rejected as an "unhealthy relationship".  For the time being,
I am not reflecting SUPs to the web site protocol (they _do_
remain effective in the PTF body).  I have a battle to fight
here.  In the short term, I'm pessimistic: there's too much
else occurring.

In the long term (if I last so long) there may be more hope.  We
may (probably) be metamorphosing into a company with not only a
significant software LOB, but even a z/OS software LOB.  Time
will tell.

>On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:09:48 -0500, Field, Alan C. wrote:
>>
>>this problem with the cancelled PTF that is co-req'd by the PTFs in
>>SDM and DSS.  HSM PTF's UA46642  UA46641  UA46640 were created and now
>>closed COR, and these supercede the cancelled PTFs.  So if you pull
>>these you should be able to get the maintenance on.  It appears the
>>problem is that the SDM and DSS PTFs call for the cancelled HSM PTF
>>instead of its superceding PTF.

-- gil

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