I am the systems programmer. (and I have been one for some 20 years, but I
have never run an IMS region.) I took over for a previous systems
programmer, so I haven't even run an install yet. I am trying to find the
most expedient way to understand my problem without having to walk through
an entire install and set up everything manually myself, which of course is
what I would normally do if I weren't taking over for somebody else :)

Anyway, I *have* JCL, and it's already customized for this IMS region. It
occurred to me that I couldn't find his STG1MACS, so I redid it from the one
in IMS910.IMSGEN.CNTL, and maybe there was a parameter discrepancy. So I set
IMSID=IMS1 in there and reran my stage1/stage2. It didn't help. Then I
discovered that my MPP regions also wanted the previous IMSID (which was
IVP1.) But instead of fixing all of that right now, I just did /R XX,IMS1 to
each of my MPP regions, and they all came up.

However, when I run my G1CP transaction, I get exactly the same response:

DFS064 06:23:22 DESTINATION CAN NOT BE FOUND OR CREATED

My main frustration (other than the perceived complexity of IMS) is that
there is no actual information associated with this error message. I'm not
sure what commands to issue to look to see if things are up, I'm not sure
what parts to look for to see if things are running or connected, I'm simply
not sure what it wants that it doesn't have. After a previous responder
mentioned having MPP regions running, I though "Oh yeah!" because I had
forgotten about those :) But now they appear to be running, and yet no
improvement.

*sigh*

Thanks for the help. I will keep looking for answers.

David Logan

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Bill Klein
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction?

Are there any IMS systems programmers or even application programmers at
your shop?  It seems to me that you are starting "out of your depth". any
way, you may want to look at:
   http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dfsisdf9/4.8.1


for JCL to start a MPR.

If you are actually trying to test an application program, then I would
strongly suggest starting with something like BTS - rather than trying to
start your own control region and MPR.

Can you tell us the actual "task" you are trying to accomplish as well as
what existing IMS personnel there is at your shop?

It has been a LONG time since I had to do much of this, but as I recall,
almost NOTHING that you should be doing needs (or should be) done from the
master console - which seems to be where you are doing almost everything.

"David Logan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<001001c9d1bb$d89ac140$89d043...@net>...
> OK, yes, I am remembering now. Man, I hate IMS :)  I really need to get
> better versed in it.
> 
> Anyway, what's happening is that IMS isn't automatically starting any of
my
> MPP regions. When I try to start them with /START REGION xxx, I get a
whole
> bunch of MPP regions that all say:
> 
> DFS690A IMS91M11.REGION.IMS91M11 - CTL PGM NOT ACTIVE, REPLY 'WAIT',
> 'CANCEL' OR 'ALT-ID'
> 
> And yet again, the message manual explains the obvious (such as "if a
> control region is going to come up soon, reply wait".) It doesn't explain
> what I should be doing to figure out why it's not seeing a control region
> that is *supposed* to be running.
> 
> So what are the MPP regions looking for that it doesn't have? The IMS ID
> seems to be fine. The MPP regions have IMSID=IMS1, and the IMS control
> region has "IMS1" in it's operator reply, so it *looks* like the IMS IDs
> match.
> 
> David Logan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf
> Of Jim Thomas
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:30 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction?
> 
> Not into IMS either but ... 
> 
> I think you'd need an MPR / MPP available first... (start an MPR / MPP and
> then issue a /DIS A)
> 
> First off ... assuming that the transaction was call TEST01, clear your
> screen and key in TEST01_ where the '_' is meant to be a space. 
> 
> If that does not work, you're likely missing an /ASS TRANS TEST01 CLASS ??
> where the '??' would be class available on the MPR / MPP and defined to
the
> TEST01 transaction. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf
> Of David Logan
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:52 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: FW: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction?
> 
> Hi guys. Sorry, but I am not very well versed in IMS, and I sure am
missing
> something. I want to run an IMS transaction, but no matter what I do, all
I
> get is:
> 
>  
> 
> DFS064 11:46:46 DESTINATION CAN NOT BE FOUND OR CREATED
> 
>  
> 
> I've looked this message up in various places, but I have found nothing at
> all useful to resolving it. What am I missing? This is IMS V9 under z/OS
> 1.8. It's got default security, which means it won't let me do hardly
> anything via terminal commands, I have to do everything via message
replies
> on the master console. I have done a "/START DC", although I don't know
how
> to tell if it was successful.
> 
>  
> 
> OK, I've provided the information I can think of to provide. Any
> suggestions?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>  
> 
> David Logan
> 
>  
> 
> 
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