Only a couple of days? Wow. Took me years and years ;-)

If you were trying to impress me, well, it worked :-D

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David Logan
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:23 PM
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Subject: Re: "CEDF" type of ability in IMS??

Will do, thanks! It took me a couple of days to get it all into my head, but
it all makes sense now.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of Hal Merritt
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:35 AM
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Subject: Re: "CEDF" type of ability in IMS??

I'd look in my BTS device specification and compare to the MFS set up to
insure that the device types line up. MFS can't display anything if it does
not have a suitable device output format (DOF).   


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Of David Logan
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:30 PM
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Subject: Re: "CEDF" type of ability in IMS??

Thanks! I found it and set it up. It is quite cool. The problem I am having
with BTS now is that I am testing a transaction that works online, but when
I run it under BTS, the formatted 3270 output I get is blank. Nothing but
the transaction name twice in that screen. I haven't yet figured out what
I'm missing to show the actual screen.

And for the transaction that *isn't* working in IMS online, in BTS it
appears to go through a whole bunch of DLI calls and screen calls, and even
seems to send formatted output to the LTERM in BTS, but in online I get
diddly. Just a quick X and nothing else. (and as before, I get nothing in
the formatted output, but I can't trust that yet per my first problem.)

*sigh* :) I will figure it out!


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of Bill Klein
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:43 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: "CEDF" type of ability in IMS??

The usual "testing tool" that corresponds to CEDF for IBM, is BTS (Batch
Terminal Simulator) that does NOT actually run "in the IMS region".  (It can
be set to work interactively with IBM's Debug Tool, Xpediter, or many other
"interactive debugging tools") I don't know if it will give you what you
want - but it might.

As far as starting your transactions, do your application programmers just
enter
  "transaction name"
or do they enter
  "/FOR first-screen-transaction-name

I think the latter is what usually works (for MPR transactions).

"David Logan" <loga3...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<011c01c9d954$90d99a70$b28ccf...@net>...
> Thanks all to those who helped me get through step one in IMS. It's pain
in
> the butt, a lot of stupid little pieces and parts and steps, but it's not
> that hard once you know what the pieces and parts and steps are. I got one
> of my two transactions working. However, the other one still isn't, and I
> see no obvious reason. No messages or anything. So my question is this:
> 
>  
> 
> Is there some type of debug/log ability in IMS (perhaps similar to CEDF in
> CICS)? Is there an easy way for me to tell that it may be trying to access
a
> DBD that doesn't have a file or something? I don't know why it just
ignores
> me when I type the transaction in.
> 
>  
> 
> As a secondary question, now that I'm thinking about it. My developers
> appear to be used to logging onto IMS, signing in, then just typing the
> transaction. Currently, I have to do a /SET TRANSACTION XXX" before I can
> type in XXX. What is the magic to not have to do the /SET first?
> 

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