Try creating GDG(+1) from z/OS Unix. Note that using the 'cp' command generates two SMF 15 records - can't DSN trigger using it. Find something else that works with GDGs. I'll wait. While I'm in the shell, I can't use split screen. 13.11 and 3.17 don't have all the capabilities of the shell. Monitoring the Unix environment presents challenges. I have a comprehensive set of JCL to do a zillion things in classic MVS. Shell scripts don't cut it. Education issue? Perhaps. I'll get right on it in my copious free time. Mainframe auditors trying to understand Unix security model or Unix auditors trying to audit z/OS - both keep my life interesting. Inability of classic MVS utilities to manipulate Unix files. Much as it grates, I have to agree with Mr Gilmartin. If you really want adoption of Unix facilities, utilities and JCL should treat path/file same as DSN=, including executables. Please, please, please give me error messages that don't require multistage lookup. That LookAt and Quick-Ref can understand.
Short version: the toolset is limited, Unix files are treated differently (or not at all) by traditional JCL and Utilities, Unix commands to manipulate data have (documented but non-intuitive) restrictions, and z Sysprogs are already swamped with keeping up with the technology, particularly in medium shops where very few people support a lot of infrastructure. I don't dislike Unix at all. I play with various versions of Unix and Linux at home. It's interesting comparing different OS capabilities and facilities. Here at work is a different story. Unexpected difficulties in the movement of data between z/OS Unix and classic MVS, and the manipulation of data from one environment to the other, plus the lack of supporting tools, all contribute to reluctance to develop applications based on Unix facilities. Cheers,,,Steve Steve Conway Lead Systems Programmer Information Systems & Services Division Computer & Network Operations Phone: (703) 450-3156 Fax: (703) 450-3197 A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check made payable to ' The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.' That is Honor, and there are too many people in this country who no longer understand it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

