Since SuperSession is so great (and it is much better than TPX and from
what I remember of Session Manager), how come it is so hard to
find a session entry. When you have a menu with a hundred of more
sessions, a simple 'FIND sessid'  would be most helpful instead of
having
to scroll down thru numerous entries, but the 'SuperProgrammers' who
wrote the thing could never figure out a way to do this. 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Mark Zelden
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:13 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Supersession to CA-TPX

On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:58:59 +0900, Timothy Sipples <e99...@jp.ibm.com>
wrote:

>Also probably getting off topic, but is there anything particularly 
>wrong with CL/SUPERSESSION? IBM still supports it, and there is no end 
>of service planned.
>
>If for some reason there is something wrong with CL/SUPERSESSION, there

>is a one-for-one trade option to switch to IBM Session Manager if 
>that's a better fit. See IBM announcement letter 205-066 for details:
>
>http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/6/897/ENUS205-066/ENUS205-066.PDF
>

CL/SUPERSESSION is not strategic.   And please don't take offense and
please
excuse my bluntness and language - but ISM sucks.  (**disclaimer....
this is
my personal opinion and does not represent the opinions of my company.)


Through many years of consulting at dozens of shops, I've used them all.
Supersession, TPX, Teleview, Tubes, VMAN, Switch, PIE, InterSession,
NVAS, and even just good 'ol Netview TAF.   I've probably missed a
couple
too. 

CL/SUPERSESSION is my favorite and TPX is second.  

I'm not saying ISM is the worst out of all the ones I listed above, it
just doesn't compare to Supersession and TPX.  

We had a mixture of CL/SUPERSESSION and TPX mostly and also PIE used
from CICS.   IBM sold us ISM to save us money.  Then the Candle
acquisition took place before we really started any migrations.  I was
hoping we would then stick with SuperSession since both were IBM, but
that is when we were told that SuperSession was not strategic and it
would be ISM that was enhanced.  I also had conversations with a CL
developer at SHARE who confirmed.  

All that being said... ISM has always done it's job as a VTAM session
manager.
Even from the first version we used.  It has gotten a lot better from
where it started, but still has a very long way to go to win my heart.

Mark
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