On 16 Jun 2009 16:31:00 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>>As a US citizen living in Canada, I would strongly urge Canadian companies 
>>not doing business in the US to also not keep any personal data on US 
>>computers because of Patriot Act implications.
>
>Even if they're doing business in the US, I would strongly recommend keeping 
>Canadian data in Canada.
>
>
>A couple of years ago, George W got the clearing houses in Belgium (I believe) 
>to cough up information from any/all members of that international consortium.
>
>While security for the US is important to the US, it does not give them the 
>right to trump another country's security.
>
>Another example is that the US now requires all the security information of 
>any flight to/from/within Canada to be supplied to them, if the flight path 
>happens to cross over any US air-space.

I agree with you on the latter and hope Canada reciprocates the
request for information.  Where this discussion is relevant is in the
provision of service and policies each of us might consider advising
our employers about implications.  When I am contracting on the
applications side, much of the time in order to do my job I need to
have access to confidential information to verify that the requested
change/fix/enhancement works and that data is properly validated.
Control of who has access to what is a very interesting challenge. The
laws surrounding the protections on the data and on outside
contractors use/misuse of it are interesting.  Of course an
organization may not want to hear about concerns.  I know it was
interesting addressing security issues at one shop (a situation that
has changed since I left).  

The main reason that this topic may be off topic is that most of us
are (or in my case were since I am retired with a willingness to take
contracts) not in a position to effectively raise this type of issue.
>
>As a Canadian, I find this a little hard to swallow.
>
>This is the last I'll say (publicly) on this issue, since it has drifted 
>off-topic.
>-
>Too busy driving to stop for gas!
>

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