David, >> Just think of the lengths IMS goes to *not* to have an MPR >> canceled from under it! >IMS and it's BPE framework has it's hooks firmly in OMVS. IMS Connect >cannot run without it. An IMS Java MPP/BPP requires OMS (anybody using >IMS Java?).
I was refering more to the fact that you cannot cancel/force arm/force *any* MPR. (Ask me how I know!) On the test system we get calls about once every 4-5 months, where a tso user testing as a BMP (I think) managed to screw things up so that his TSO useris is still living, but he cannot login anymore, and he cannot get canceled. cancel gets 'not cancelable, use force arm'. force arm gets some other error message. And I believe force gets rejected with 'use force arm first'. At that point I get called to take a dump and run IBMs CALLRTM program. In 50% of the cases that terminates the userid, and he can login again. The other 50% IMS needs to get restarted, impoacting all other users. And we also use IMS connect. We might even use IMS Java, but IMS is fortunately another group.... You've just given me another nightmare with 'has its hooks frimly in OMVS'. :-) Barbara ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

