Its shouldn't be too difficult to figure out.

What port are they using?  21 - FTP, 990 - FTPS,  22 - ssh, etc.
Another alternative is to telnet into the port and press enter... you
wil usually see something that hints at the protocol.


On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Hal Merritt<[email protected]> wrote:
> Problem is that we don't actually know what is on the far end. We are only 
> assuming/speculating that ssh is the vehicle. Further, we don't know the 
> precise flavor of server software in use on the far end.
>
> Had a partner site that was 100% positive that they were using ssh. Not only 
> were they actually using TLS, but the server software claimed to be RFC 
> compliant but actually only worked with Windows clients.
>
> I think we all agree that the statement that "... they don't require any 
> authentication of keys..." doesn't compute.
>
> A puzzlement :-)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> Of Kirk Wolf
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:04 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: z/OS Mainframe - SFTP - Disable Publickey Authentication and 
> only use Password?
>
> ssh (used by sftp) won't work unless *host* keys are exchanged when
> the session is setup.  The client has a little database of known host
> keys and will fail if the server has a different key.  A configuration
> option allows the OpenSSH client to accept a new host key
> automatically, otherwise a interactive user is required to acknowledge
> acceptance.
>
> User authentication can be done in a number of ways, including keys
> and password.  The password is *never* sent in the clear.
>
> Kirk Wolf
> Dovetailed Technologies
> http://dovetail.com
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> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hal Merritt<[email protected]> wrote:
>> They may not but the protocol does. That's the way it works.
>>
>> There's something missing. Maybe they accept FTP in the clear, using only an 
>> ID and password.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Of Leonard Sasso
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:59 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: z/OS Mainframe - SFTP - Disable Publickey Authentication and 
>> only use Password?
>>
>> The external site (CMS) has informed us they don't require any
>> authentication of keys (public and private).
>>
>> Thank You.
>>
>> Len Sasso
>>
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>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:52:17 -0400, Leonard Sasso wrote:
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>>>I have a Mainframe Batch Job executing the BPXBATCH program to invoke
>> SFTP
>>>to transfer a file to an external site.
>>>
>>>The external site does not require any Authentication.
>>>
>>>How do I Disable the Publickey Authentication and only use the Password?
>>>
>>>Below are the Execution JCL, Configuration file and Job Output.
>>>
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>> Whoever wrote the JCL seems to think that the batchfile indicated by the
>> "-b"
>> option of sftp can contain a userid and password, but it can't. I am
>> puzzled by
>> your statement that the external site doesn't require any authentication.
>> Maybe someone at the external site can tell you what that means.
>>
>> Bill
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